69 posts
Waste of Rain
Played by Sam
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Post by technicolour Capitalist on May 2, 2016 22:19:51 GMT
Welcome to the official Derse Fanclub thread! (woooo derse repreSENT) (u gotta say that sent loud ok i dont make the rules) (jk yes i do im the leader)
Official Derse Fanclub Mascot: Culinary Harbinger (<33333333333333) CH is the cutest and will give you unique baked goods if you prove your Derse Fanclub membership to him, it's actually the best.
Still setting this page up! Please try not to respond while I make some rad banners, sweet graphics and violently flashing gifs (jk) to make sure that we outshine the Prospit lot! (its funny cause theyre all about bright lights nd stuff)
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92 posts
God of the Furthest Ring
Played by Nedben
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Post by horrorTerror on May 13, 2016 1:31:08 GMT
Woooo, Derse repreSENT!!!
Fun things to note, quick summary:
1. Overworked Deliverygirl the Derse mailwoman actually understands that the mail quests are actually more lethally difficult than anything else and will tell you before shipping you into things scaled to kill you. PM on Prospit supposedly does not warn nearly as hard and seriously if she does at all, and what looks like an innocent half of a fetch quest turns into a frenzied battle for your life while searching for the utmost of hidden secrets. What the hell Prospit I thought you were supposed to be cutesy ditzes who never win ever not 'offer painful suicide methods to people who don't want to die'.
2. Derse doesn't risk blinding you when you stare into the sky on some days. Seriously who the hell thought putting Skaia at eye-destroying range for the vast majority of playeroids was okay S***b is not designed well.
3. The horrible things across the nearest boundary to other places don't destroy your soul. I mean we'll buy it off you but we don't actually rip pieces of you out of it and eat them, that would be an honor reserved for your physical body. Angels go away, angels go awaaaay.
4. Derse actually can win. And in the vast majority of cases, it does. The Black King wins the official War, and if you guys lose to him, the actual one too. Prospit can't win, and even without the demands of fate and plot logic while the numbers are more equal the inequalities remaining are in Derse's favor. They're even honest as competitors: Prospit's top agency does nothing productive and even when it is running missions prefers jokes and gags and failing to hold their own ground on moon and on Battlefield without player aid, while Derse sends assassins and bureaucrats to take you down once you prove yourselves foes and even is the one who hired your Denizen to grief your land with underlings and most of their missions involve actually striking blows at Prospit. Derse holds together even against a massive insurgency or destruction of their capital: Prospit tends to call it quits and surrender quicker after the loss of the golden spikeball.
5. They're serious. Everyone acts realistically (well, compared to other parties) as they would to a foe they are kept from hitting only out of legal mandate by powers beyond their ken: acceptance forced begrudgingly, and no more. The loyalists are not cheering on the messengers of their downfall and until prophecy clarifies a victory they're not going to lose to it, and the rebellious are acutely aware how everything matters is getting messed up. Prospitians will complain for a while but ultimately go full consort about their defeat, I am talking '[the failure of our entire lives culminating in a torturously slow and painful death] is the best thing ever!!' level full consort, Dersites model standard playeroid grieving methodology a sanity check better. Also, BQ is actually hella clear on you being an enemy and if it wasn't for her technical respect for Dersite lunar law she'd clock you with the miles faster than you can say 'hey why's your ring glowing queenie?', I mean seriously she assesses you as what you are; a diplomatic guest she would rather be rid of because of a fated fight with the person she is arguably in <3-quadrant love with is inevitable provided you do not die or ruin everything before that.
6. LOWER PRICES LOWER PRICES LOWER PRICES. You don't need to beg for discounts to actually afford things at points where they'll be useful except for exact mirrored things like the verballistamina grinder theater Flow+Rhyme players adore. Being able to buy cheaper stuff = less moneygrinding = fewer quests before goal attained = less possibility of dying horribly before you get what you need to have less chance of dying horribly. Even if it's a rather small thing every boondollar counts until your Time player hijacks an economy or something or a land coughs up some legendary treasures. When you're an external entity who has to usually be let in before they can tinker this is like so important.
7. Way better (for replayers anyway) magic teachy stuff. Space cadets in appropriate classes for pregame majjykal potential buffing can pore away their childhood nights in the libraries of the golden moonpair for years and barely get any good technical theory out of it, taking years of further research and possibly enough replays to start naturally freestyling before it gets good, while in the span of a session studying tomes on Derse you can get enough practical applications to noticeably set you ahead in pregame and entryphase post-replay. And MD can teach combat-applicable and adventuring-useful movement techniques way faster than DM will on Prospit, without even a following quest. Seriously just follow the squiddlepath roads from the middle of the dream tower band until you reach DA's cathedral and talk to the guy between services and you can get a whole bunch of actually useful reading material. Prospit's arcana are mostly focused on aspects that tend to be messy outside of their game-mandated presences. yeesh.
8. You can actually SEE stuff like geez Prospit yellow is hard to see sometimes like yikes. Maybe it's just affinity for the dark side but Derse can have a better bright-dark range seriously is there even any dark yellow on Prospit not created by casting your own shadows gaah.
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40 posts
Witch of Hope
Played by Mara
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Post by kenoticAntagonism on May 13, 2016 9:12:45 GMT
you wanna argument with a native hope player who also just native rerolled leggo 1 v all you durrses
1. Parcel Mistress is a damn boss and her rewards are far more useful than Overworked Deliverygirl. Tell me where else you can get the Royal Derringer without being one of the OG (original gangster, not one of the five carapces who can be called OG) wallhackers who can perfectly 360 noclip the Black Queen's vault wall? Not all of us are meritocratic elitists horrorTerror, check that non-human non-societial privileged of yours. Also the Parcel quests on Propsit are shorter. What's better, 25 or so quests of daring danger and swag or 50+ quests of some annoying bi-hatch quivering and telling you to be careful like she's an anime chick and you're her senpai? Don't tell me those weirdly huge eyes of OD's don't give you the damn creeps, because you're all lying if you do.
2. Who thought putting Derse at brain-destroying range for corruption was any better of a call? At least Skaia willingly gives up info. To get anything from the horrorterrors you better be prepared to sell every soul you've got to offer (they check for the extra ones when you're a Heart player, damn stingy hentai lords) and learn how to speak with multiple tongues at once (and at least two of those tongues will be slithering all kindsa awkward). Or deal with Fred here. Toss up as to which is worse. Angels are pretty bad but they're not even actually on Skaia unless your session is hella bugged (RIP fletchedSunlight all Fate players owe u 5ever), so Prospit manages to not be the font and nexus of all 'player [x] is going to go into the grimdorks' unlike a certain other planet with stupid looking grape hues.
3. The White Queen's dialogue tree is actually usefully navigable without needing an endgame Blood or Sound player to speak to her. Like holy crap what is the Black Queen even on. I mean she literally surrounds herself with people who want her dead, so I cannot imagine that she's ever been programmed to be in any sound state of mind. Like ffs the Black Queen can literally generate infinite dialogue loops of the usual 'I know you are but what am I' BS just by asking her for the weather. There is a reason Dersian battleships are fucking impossible to requisition for Ring voyages without hella exploits. Guess when the White Queen is willing to hand over a battleship with the works to her loyal and awesome Princes and Princesses. Post [Earn Your Wings]. Guess when the Black Queen is willing to hand over one that isn't falling apart at the seams. Post-fucking-scratch.
4. Since when has Derse being so rambunctious and hard to force to surrender ever been a good thing? I happen to like my dreamselves staying alive, thank you very much. See what these egg-shell peeps don't understand is that the Strife only gives the power to reject everything ever as if it were your high school crush to people who prove themselves worthy of it's Hopey goodness. Neither Prospit nor Derse ever, ever actually have the ability to defy their fates. Prospit loses to Derse, Derse loses to the players. They're no different, and admiring them for being more 'noble' than the Prospitians is so hilarious I forgot to laugh. They're just even deeper in the denial, and last I checked the Dersians have no Hope Aspect contamination justifying their struggle against the inevitable. It's sad, really. Everything every Durrsite does is a waste of time. Like eternityBraid so wisely said, hella 'delusions of importance'. They're not even any more realistic. You're looking at it from the point of view of their antagonism, but as protagonistic forces Dersians suck. None of them know how to speak in a non awkward or ragey or douchey manner with the exception of Draconian Dignitary (only tolerable Durrsite IMO). Prospitians are well spoken and can actually have decent procedurally generated conversations sometimes. All you get with the Dersites is a lot of shuffling back and forth and vague and ominous B.S.
5. You get way more free stuff on Prospit, and a lot of it is good alchemy fodder or just spares you the need to waste grist. Okay, first, the lower prices on Derse are as much of a lie as the 'secret' cake that Giggling Baker apparently sells. Prices even out because Prospit offers way more discounts, that are not that hard to get if you know how to talk like a normal human being (RIP me). Hell, Prospit's prices can ultimately even out to being slightly cheaper if you can get all the discounts, including the hidden ones for the [Topiary Testified] quest line. You can get literal mountains of free food from Tyranic Souschef in the Prospitian kitchens. Mobius Tripp always has one random CD of music from presession that has super good Flow and Rhyme contamination for alchemizing. Miss Taylor's gives you the free ceremonial dress during the super easy Royal Ball questline [We've Got The Biggest Balls Of Them All] (durrsite version of this quest is hella harder). Yodeling Herald can always point you the right way to one of the Skaian clouds that will show you a relevant prophecy the first time you look at it (Life/Doom/Fate players eat your hearts out). That's just scratching the tip of the iceberg. I can count the amount of freebies on Derse with both hands tied behind my back. Derse is way more stingy, you barely get shit from them without having to pay boon or blood first.
6. Derse's arcana also has a kinda-sorta tendency to be inherently corruptive if you pick the wrong titles, though you particularly may not have noticed that for obvious reasons. RNG can and will kill people trying to do research here. Prospit's arcana may suck at the fundamentals, yes, but let's be honest that's rarely even relevant isn't it? The awakened-due-to-Sleep-Ratio-bugs-dreamers are, statistically, on Prospit 80-something percent of the time. By the time you're in the game the aspect arcana of the dream moons is way inferior to your Revelawesomes on your planet. What Prospit arcana can teach you is the 'why', the meanings of things that enlighten shit for peeps and allow players who don't have their heads stuck where the sun don't shine to l2 ARC. Philosophy exists for a reason, not that old Durrsite 'if it don't stab things it ain't worth' methodology would ever comprehend that.
7. The Ceremonies on Prospit are way more useful than those on Derse, and well better planned too. Who would have thunk, the carapces who know how to have a good time are better at making it a good time for the players? Prospit Processions are shorter, less formal, and less stuffy and boring than Derse Processions so you're less likely to take a Rep hit since you're more likely to, you know, actually be there. The Royal Ball is just fucking lol. Nobody on Derse except DD can dance worth a damn. Jack Noir keeps trying to stab you while you're dancing. And of course, when the Ball is done on Prospit the White Queen will usually give you a minor Revelawesome about how your mad moves inspire Prospit and shits. Black Queen just rolls her eyes and says she's seen better dancing in her time. When she herself has all the grace on the floor of a goldfish out of water. Everyone's doing the flop! And the Masqurade is way easier with the Prospitians because the dumb ass Durrse guards are still checking for players being where they shouldn't be so the disguises have to be more solid. Mask falls off in the middle of Prospit? Everyone shrugs. Gives you a new one. That might have Mangrit boosts. Seriously, could the Durrsites bother to have at least one decent piece of equipment on them that doesn't cost all the arms and legs?
8. It's just your affinity for the dark side. Seeing is typically easier on Prospit because most species Replaying have normal eyes. Durrse is something out of a damn horror movie the lighting is so bad. And bonus points for Seers, your optional Blindness ARC is made easier if you have a Prospit start! Meanwhile Durrse Seers are outta luck.
9. The Prospitian archagents can be temp recruited as a dance squad, which is just hella. Do the Durrsites have their own backup dancers? Didn't think so.
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92 posts
God of the Furthest Ring
Played by Nedben
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Post by horrorTerror on May 13, 2016 11:47:12 GMT
1. The anime eye carapaces are best for carapace-accessible magic eyes revelawesomes seriously take her thru [ No U Giclops ] or [Greater Disconcerting Oggle] revelawesomes with you and it's 9000fold faithful blessings all over again. PM is a viable anti-horrorterror weapon if you can keep her pure with liquid hug dispensers and give her a half-decent weapon. ..wait that's a good thing for you guys duh. Anyways Speaker Parcel Mistress is best weapon don't give Team Kill You an opportunity lol 2. Wait, I'm not worse yet? I must try harder!!! Learn to moonjack except for the Eclipse we're way out of aura range, it's like one day dude. 3. Why are you asking her about the weather there's a window right fucking there that's usually open with curtains aside unless it's an eclipse or something. BQ is supposed to be a final boss you don't ask the final boss for help. 4. Anyways dying in alpha to things the game sends to kill you is a thing, so YMMV on them actually not winning. Lol. rttp://ringmeup.net/bin/images/virgilia_ehwot.png/ 5. THE SECRET CAKE IS NOT A LIE YOU JUST NEED TO MIND CONTROL HIM and- ugh more meetings later gravity kbak briefly 5 more. Okay you're right about the more freebies part but honestly when you don't have to time to maintain playeroid decency or your homeworld never had the opportunity for it in the first place it's less an issue. Not everyone is gentlemanMannerism. And Tyrannic Souschef runs both lunar lead kitchens, dude. And if you delegate getting food to a follower (or if you let us in kek) they can't usually rely on royalty discounts. 6. Did 'don't toss this in an alchemiter prince/princess' on the title page not tip you off? Prophetic writers are hella good at that stuff. I mentioned it was for earlygame post-replay, a lot of dream moon knowledge tends to stay in-packet. -egh 7. ' Dance Stab Dance' is a real dance and Jack Noir will stab you if you say otherwise. Seriously what the dance has stabbing in its name how did you miss that when you tried dancing with the man whose default reaction to anything and everything with the possible exception of jazz music and licorice scotty dogs is STABS. 'Flop around and writhe like a flagellum' is a Dersite religious dance, of course it's tedious and boring and very hard to do without a session disc abstraction kicking you in the face and broomspamming harder than Virgilia. If it costs all the arms and legs get new arms and legs there are aspects and alchemy for that. BQ is saying other people dance better, she does have the dance skills of a failsquid, and not a good dancing failsquid. 8. Why are people recommending self-mutilation by sparkling facets before I am? The bad lighting means you can bring a lamp. With your hands. And whack the attacking agents with it. 9. You can hire MD's entire class of dance ninjas (including the ones with jetpacks) if you can actually go through his entire selection of dance courses, defeat him in a dance-off according to the other judges in the main body district dance contest he administrates, and then do well at the Derse recital. I mean it's hard but still shorter than the entirety of [ Earn Your Wings ]. All the ninjas are the weak kind of generic carapace except for the part where they can dance but the raw numbers are okay compared to the majority of other followers available.
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69 posts
Waste of Rain
Played by Sam
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Post by technicolour Capitalist on May 13, 2016 16:08:55 GMT
Wow, what the heck is this Prospit-loving-garbage? Get that stuff outta here. (way way way away preferablyyyyyy !!) This is a thread for good Derse things, not gross Prospit things. Jeez, some people have no respect for the clearly better moon.
Derse is the actual best, first and foremost, because we have the actual best Carapacians! (dersites r so cooool theyre like. they dont give a damn, u kno ?? theyre just. damnnnn) First off, we have the Black Queen, who is clearly superior to the White Queen, ok? Who the hell wants a Queen that's gonna give you the time of day? The whole point of the Queen's is to be scary and standoffish! Earning the Queen's respect is all part of the game! (so i guess the white queens ok if u wanna start on easy mode ooooooooo slam dunk !!)
Also, they all dance really well, thank you very much! Just because you don't understand the intricacies of the legendary Dance Stab Dance (or whatever it is that hk does when you leave her alone for too long with the arms ?? u kno the thing right its SO good) doesn't mean that it's bad! Honestly, some people just can't appreciate modern interpretive dance. I guess I don't blame you. It is pretty high standard stuff.
Not to mention, we've got the Others! And sure, hey, they're scary beasties. They've got agendas and stuff (no offense fred ilu). But Others are the entire reason that this forum right here right now is up and running! Plus, a lot of them are super cool, and are down for a rad chat and not wanting to steal your soul and stuff! (see told u ilu) Any Derse dreamer worth their salt knows that you can get on well with them so long as you don't go staring into space for too long, or asking them for things. Honestly, I've never not been a Derse dreamer, and I'm 100% corruption free! The Others are just cool tentacle space dudes who are looking for a good time. (who also happen to corrupt u if ur dumb nd idk stroke their tentacly faces or somethin)
Oh, hey, not to mention our colour scheme is just flat out way better. It's so much better. What the hell were the devs thinking when they designed the Prospit colour scheme, honestly.
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16 posts
Bane of Flow
Played by mollusc
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Post by fourierAnalysis on May 14, 2016 9:41:00 GMT
admins please delete this thread
reason: derse sucks
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69 posts
Waste of Rain
Played by Sam
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Post by technicolour Capitalist on May 14, 2016 10:14:17 GMT
(haha suck it) The admin has made their decision and this thread is deemed not guilty, on account of the admin being the biggest Derse fangirl ever. The court says that's totally a fine reason by their standards.
Man, there's so much hate for Derse you guys, I'm trying to make a lovely space for us Derse fans to talk about how rad and awesome Derse is, and here you Prospit punks are all "oh Prospit is so good, I love being blinded when I walk outside"! (it was probs the title tbh its p COME FIGHTish) (but i gotta speak the truth i cannot tell a LIE) (lol) Way to ruin our good vibes, you jerks. ( (((((((( truly ur breakin my heart)
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143 posts
Seer of Law
Played by Lucy
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Post by wizardlyluminary on May 14, 2016 10:41:52 GMT
Prospit's nice and all, but Derse is definitely better. Who wants all that blinding yellow when you could have elegant purple? Besides, the Others have done more for players than Skaia ever has.
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16 posts
Bane of Flow
Played by mollusc
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Post by fourierAnalysis on May 14, 2016 11:40:45 GMT
anyway youre all wrong the best moon kingdom is the green one. i mean ive never seen it but like im sure it exists right.
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92 posts
God of the Furthest Ring
Played by Nedben
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Post by horrorTerror on May 14, 2016 15:21:06 GMT
The green kingdom is like....are we talking about that fanfic written by a really bored sapient debug npc where nuclear Latels decided 'hmm let's move to a green sun in the ring and become eye-searing first guardians too' and provides many surprisingly realistic possibilities for Can Town except everyone is a First Guardian somehow, or the one where felt leprechauns in dead sessions where you break Sburb and murder all your coplayers preentry despite fate, logic, the laws of physics, etc. allegedly come from according to yogurtboner/Yaldabaoth?
The FG fanfic one makes Prospit look easy on the eyes (THE LIGHT IT BURNS GET IT OFF GET IT OFF OH GOD IT'S RADIOACTIVE WHY DID YOU PUT A DREAM MOON NEXT TO A RADIOACTIVE POWER-SPEWING HELL) and the Yolobroth fanfic is apparently so horrible a demented azurite fantasy billiards game where genocide is the best way to not die is a better place to go since the feltichons don't give a shit about working for a PK and committing mass murder.
Derse does not suck, the giant vacuum cleaner stays in the cleaning rooms like it's supposed to when not in use! Unlike Prospit, who has to clean up all the libraries because a spacechild is radiating microscopic ideoplasm all over everything in the forbidden section to match regular biology for years.
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85 posts
Dame of Dreams
Played by Phrike
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Post by soothSlayer on May 15, 2016 3:18:18 GMT
ok guys stfu 4 a hot sec here what u guys fail 2 realize is the fact we PROspitians have a trump card tucked all snug up in our sleeves and im about 2 play that shit send yall fools in2 the shadow realm where u deserve 2 b
parcel motherfuckin mistress
do i even need 2 explain why she p much settles this whole debate? yes? ok fine
ok so basically we all know about pm by now shes a p commonly sighted carapace in many sessions simply b/c her thing is all about wanderin around lands and delivering off packages like some roided out fed-ex employee wanderin isnt the rite word tho shes a woman on a goddamn mission she does no wanderin we dont have an aimless renegade w/o a purpose on our hands here this lady is all business all the time shes like 99% business and 1% sweet sword skills 100% cute
srry im gettin off track
SO 2 get this powerhouse its prolly really easy rite? like jack noir easy? just shove some licorice candy in her face and voila u got urself a rowdy prospitian postal worker rdy to kick ass and take names ya? WRONG do even gain ANY favor w/ her ur gonna have 2 bust ur ass doin some of the hardest and DEADLIEST quests in the motherfuckin game u slip up u will die better hope u got a pocket healer by ur side ur gonna need that shit b but u may b askin urself
ss babe
is it worth it?
u bet ur sorry ass its worth it only a scrub would ask that sorta question once u prove urself 2 her u will have a loyal companion 4 LIFE well 4 the duration of ur session but still
just fuckin
parcel mistress
nuff said *drops mic*
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143 posts
Seer of Law
Played by Lucy
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Post by wizardlyluminary on May 15, 2016 3:26:06 GMT
Honestly, if you're going to keep preaching about Prospit at least make your own thread instead of clogging up ours.
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85 posts
Dame of Dreams
Played by Phrike
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Post by soothSlayer on May 15, 2016 3:28:43 GMT
dont have such flagrant fightin words in the title next time cant take the heat stay outta the kitchen dweebenheimer
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40 posts
Witch of Hope
Played by Mara
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Post by kenoticAntagonism on May 15, 2016 3:55:33 GMT
fuckin rip rest in prospit anyways imma bounce we all know who won don't ask what up with the timecodes i'm fuckin' around with some old hardware for the lulz atm
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92 posts
God of the Furthest Ring
Played by Nedben
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Post by horrorTerror on May 15, 2016 4:23:15 GMT
That sad sad moment when the greatest advantage an entire world has over another is ice cream flavors.
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